1. uptownhags:

    Get to Know Me Meme: 5 favorite male characters
    ↳5/5: Cary Agos

    Hey, there aren’t that many generations left. You’ve taken the greatest generation, the lost generation, the Pepsi generation, so what do we have left? The surprise generation? So, surprise.

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  2. fuckyeahcaryagos:

    Cary Agos 45/100

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  4. melikeit2011:

    gretamaya:

    gretamaya:

    Almost none of the commentary I’ve read on The Good Wife season 5 finale has talked about Kalinda’s thoughts and feelings, which just highlights how little effort the show put into showing her thoughts and feelings. She was just a prop to be pimped out by Diane and abused by Cary,…

    I agree that the writers needed to show that Cary was hurt and upset, and that was where that scene came from. But The Good Wife doesn’t happen in a vacuum. The writers chose to show Cary’s hurt and anger in a way that’s over-done and poorly-done. Sexual violence/aggression toward women is often something shows fall back on when they need to show a male character being ‘edgy’ or ‘dark’. It’s a culmination of terrible writing decisions - the writers never showed their relationship as anything other than sexual, leaving them no other way to show Cary’s anger. Kalinda’s response struck me as terribly off - you’re right in saying that’s not how sex worked between them, but she didn’t know what was going on or why he flipped out like that, yet she took no steps to protect herself. Cary’s response to being hurt made sense, but that really should’ve been shown in some other way. Kalinda’s response made no sense whatsoever.

    See, I’m not planning to watch season 6. I just feel like I’ve wasted 5 years being invested in characters and relationships who were doomed to be ruined in the end by those writers.I don’t care about what they’ve in store for season 6. I simply don’t care because they’ve completely screwed up every thing I cared about. I think Robert and Michelle King knew what they’re doing with that scene. And the reason they did it even if the knew what they’re doing is because they don’t give a damn about those two characters or their fans. Maybe it didn’t cross the line but it was something completely out of character for Cary anyway. But they were too busy thinking about the next “shocking-edgy” moment to throw at us to care about what they’re doing to those characters.

    They shouldn’t have done this to the character, to his fans and to the actor who plays him (because there’s now way they didn’t know how that would have affected baddly his fandom). And I don’t think there’s something they can do it now to make up for it. Nor I think they give a damn about it, sincerely.

    Heh, you were writing this at the same time I was complaining about it on twitter. I definitely agree with the writers going for something “shocking” or “edgy” over caring about how it actually affects the characters. I don’t see how they could do anything with these characters in season 6 that would make sense. Cary’s not going to want to work with Kalinda, and I can’t see why she would want to be around him. Alicia already wasn’t interacting with Kalinda, and then Alicia got to watch Kalinda sleep with someone for her own purposes and not care who she hurt, which is what Kalinda did to Alicia when Kalinda slept with Alicia’s husband. I can’t image Alicia being any happier with Kalinda being around than Cary would.

    So they’ve set up a scenerio which is the opposite of what I would want to watch, one where Kalinda either doesn’t interact with most of the main cast or only does so in a negative way. They use the same storyline with her over and over again, it never goes anywhere or means anything.

    As for Cary, they’ve set him up to be involved in seasons before and never done anything with it, I can’t image that changing. The Good Wife: the show where the writers never learn from their mistakes.

     

  5. gretamaya:

    Almost none of the commentary I’ve read on The Good Wife season 5 finale has talked about Kalinda’s thoughts and feelings, which just highlights how little effort the show put into showing her thoughts and feelings. She was just a prop to be pimped out by Diane and abused by Cary,…

    I agree that the writers needed to show that Cary was hurt and upset, and that was where that scene came from. But The Good Wife doesn’t happen in a vacuum. The writers chose to show Cary’s hurt and anger in a way that’s over-done and poorly-done. Sexual violence/aggression toward women is often something shows fall back on when they need to show a male character being ‘edgy’ or ‘dark’. It’s a culmination of terrible writing decisions - the writers never showed their relationship as anything other than sexual, leaving them no other way to show Cary’s anger. Kalinda’s response struck me as terribly off - you’re right in saying that’s not how sex worked between them, but she didn’t know what was going on or why he flipped out like that, yet she took no steps to protect herself. Cary’s response to being hurt made sense, but that really should’ve been shown in some other way. Kalinda’s response made no sense whatsoever.

     

  6. Almost none of the commentary I’ve read on The Good Wife season 5 finale has talked about Kalinda’s thoughts and feelings, which just highlights how little effort the show put into showing her thoughts and feelings. She was just a prop to be pimped out by Diane and abused by Cary, without a split second being devoted to what Kalinda thought about any of this. She had no reaction to Diane asking her to sleep with Cary other than “sure” and, once Cary stopped abusing her, her reaction to that was to… try and do the job she was there being paid to do?!?! I fail to see why her reaction would have been anything other than smashing him upside the head with something heavy, chaining him to the bed, and having her legion of cop friends come and take him to jail. Even if she elected to not file charges I’m sure she could’ve made sure he spent the night in a jail cell, which is where he belonged.

    And why was there no exploration of the effect of what Diane asked Kalinda to do on Kalinda? Here’s Diane, taking advantage of a wounded, grieving person in a particularly awful and exploitive way. Diane took Kalinda’s offer of help and loyalty and used that to force Kalinda to sleep with someone. And Kalinda’s totally cool with this? I… what? How does any of this make any sense at all, from Kalinda’s point of view?

    The answer is, it doesn’t. Kalinda’s point of view was never considered at all.

     
  7. Holy shit this was disturbing. It’s one thing if Kalinda decides she wants to sleep with someone of her own accord within the context of the investigation - it’s entirely something else if her boss asks her to sleep with someone for her (the boss’s) benefit. This episode managed to ruin the relationship between Kalinda and Cary AND the relationship between Kalinda and Diane. Because Kalinda should always and forever be punished for her sexuality.

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  8. All the ways Kalinda’s storyline could have been improved if they had focused on her relationship with Will in season 5:

    When Will and Kalinda decided to team up and go after everyone after Alicia and Cary left, I was excited because I thought we’d get some focus on an interesting relationship. Instead, the writers did nothing with it until 5x15, which was a huge waste in potential.

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  9. schwarmerei1:

    gretamaya:

    I’m with you. I think the writers fundamentally don’t understand the character they created. K & N could’ve been interesting if they’d taken even a second to establish that it was Kalinda and not Generic Sexy Badass in that relationship.

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    I don’t let the writers off the hook for a second here, but I think a huge problem with Kalinda is her non-interaction with Alicia. It leaves her peripheral to every main narrative on the show and ultimately nothing she does has consequences beyond her as a result. It also means the Kalinda I love — the one you so eloquently describe existing beneath the veneer — is rarely seen except in glimpses. Not many do, but I loved the back half of Season 3 when Alicia and Kalinda were slowly reconciling because the real Kalinda, the one that moved me intensely, came to the fore then. Setting aside whatever the issue is that prevents Margulies acting with Panjabi, why couldn’t the writers have made the decision to grow Kalinda’s relationship in meaningful ways with both Will and Cary? Instead we got a whole bunch of scenes just before Will died to remind us they were bros, we could have been seeing them throughout the season and used them to show how they were both coping with the loss of Alicia. And the relationship with Cary that could have been interesting that started because Kalinda needed to reach out to another human being, is devoid of feeling and just about using each other. I hate it far more than the Nick situation.

    Yes to everything you said. It would be nice if Kalinda had interactions with Alicia, she is the center of the show and Kalinda is far too much on the outside without them. But, as you said, they at least could’ve worked on the relationships between Kalinda and both Will and Cary. ‘Devoid of feeling’ is a good way to describe what’s going between Kalinda and Cary. Why? What is the point? I don’t understand. And with Will’s death, where it looked like they were going somewhere with her, it just all came to a sudden stop. It’s so frustrating.

     

  10. melikeit2011:

    gretamaya:

    melikeit2011:

    gretamaya:

    “A Weird Year” – An open feed from a camera mistakenly left on after a teleconferenced deposition between the lawyers of Florrick/Agos and Lockhart/Gardner reveals a threat to the firm that Alicia and Cary never saw coming. Meanwhile, the fate of Lockhart/Gardner hangs in the balance as Louis Canning vies for a larger role. Also, Alicia entrusts Zach’s high school graduation party to Jackie and Veronica, on the fifth season finale of THE GOOD WIFE, Sunday, May 18 (9:00-10:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network. Michael J. Fox returns as Louis Canning. Mary Beth Peil and Stockard Channing return as Peter’s mother, Jackie Florrick, and Alicia’s mother, Veronica Loy.   -CBS press release

    This is just speculation, but I’ll put it under a cut for those that don’t want to see it.

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    Do you know what? I think your first concern could be valid. I think Cary will think Kalinda has something to do with that threat or just “use” her to get info. So, well, my prediction is that after a progression of meaningless sex scenes which were all about “I use you while you use me” or “I know you’re using me but let’s have sex anyway” those writers are going to screwing up them for good.

    I don’t know, I sort of get the impression he might pressure her to stop doing what she does - ie, sleep with people to get information from them. I have no problem with Kalinda stopping that behavior, or at least the writers stopping to show it, but I’d want it to be her choice, something she wants to do for herself. She emotionally devastated Alicia with this behavior, and yet she still hasn’t changed it. Her character is so pointless at this point I don’t even know anymore. But you could be right, though - the writers never make any sense when it comes to Kalinda.

    I reach a point where I think that those writers are intenionally screwing up some things because I can’t see how they’re not concious of what they’re doing with Kalinda, or with Cary and with their relationship.

    I’ve read people say that Cary and Kalinda don’t have chemistry in those scenes. It’s more like they don’t have emotions. And it’s even more like Archie and Matt really got bored with playing different versions of the same brief scene every week.

    I really feel like Matt and Archie are wasting time with that show. I don’t see, with those premises, how season 6 can improve their status. She’ll probably get another love interest next season and he’ll be backsided for good or turned into an antagonist (Cary Agos, the only name partner in Chicago without one single own client).

    I don’t think the writers care - they get lauded for what they do right and everyone just ignores what they do wrong. It’s not like Game of Thrones, were there is at least intense discussion at high traffic areas about its problems. So the writers have no incentive to fix what they keep screwing up.

    The scene where Kalinda goes to Cary’s apartment and talks to him about planting the information on his phone was really great - there were the things they were saying to each other out loud and then a whole lot of undercurrent that wasn’t being said yet was still there. Contrast that with the sex scenes, where there just isn’t anything. Few words, no undercurrent, nothing of value.

    Cary was set up well for this season and it didn’t matter, so I’m not sure why these characters even exist on this show anymore. CBS might not let the writers get rid of them, but the writers do their best to try and change the studio’s mind.