1. In the wake of Will’s death, Alicia and Diane’s story lines seem to be pushing them to address long-standing problems, while in Kalinda’s case it just seems to be suffer porn.

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  2. Anonymous asked: Kalinda or Diane?

    florrickandassociates:

    Oh, this is a challenging one. But I’m going to go with Diane, simply because the show has written her more consistently and made better use of the character. Kalinda has so much potential, potential that the writers sometimes seem determined to waste, and she’s had so many awful plotlines (okay, two, but they were arcs and they were absolutely terrible). I think she’s a great character, but the writing for her is often lacking. Diane, on the other hand, tends to get better material. And she’s fascinatingly complex (again, this isn’t to say that Kalinda isn’t, just that the writers have done a better job with Diane). As I wrote in my post about Diane and Alicia’s relationship, Diane seems to be motivated by her own self-interest and by a desire to help others and bring about change, and these goals aren’t always compatible. I have a lot more I could say about Diane and Kalinda, but unfortunately, I’m in a huge rush at the moment, so I’m just going to leave it at this. The post I linked to above, in many ways, doubles as my take on Diane, but I’m not sure that I’ve written anything about Kalinda. The closest thing I can think of is this, which is fairly old and also is mostly about Alicia. 

    Also, to the anon who asked about Friday Night Lights: I’ll try to get back to you ASAP!

    What was the second terrible arc? Blake? The only other arc I can think of is from season one where she helped get Peter out of jail. Well, and the time she helped Will avoid an indictment, but neither of those arcs focused on her. So the writers are batting 0/2 with Kalinda-centric arcs. The character has so much potential and the actress is great, but they really need to characterize her using something other than sex and violence. How great would it have been if the writers filled in more of her relationships with Will and Diane and why she respects them and works for them but nevertheless wants to move on and do something else and what that might be in between 5x5 and 5x15?

     
  3. If you read interviews with the writers or Archie Panjabi, they intend her accent slipping to be completely in character. When Kalinda gets emotional she loses some control over the persona she is attempting to project. To me, this accent slipping is fine, because I know why they are doing it, but the writers have failed to explain it within the context of the show. No one should have to read interviews to understand what is going on with Kalinda’s accent.

    (Source: thegoodwifeconfessions)

     
  4. desoeuvre:

    I don’t particularly have an opinion about this ship one way or the other, but I would argue that I think the lack of Cary/Kalinda interaction in 5x16 was less to do with the characters and more to do with the writers.

    We were shown a very specific and very predictable set of interactions in this episode - my housemate and I pretty much guessed all of them, with a couple of notable exceptions such as the brilliant insights into David Lee and Eli finally snapping at Peter (if only a little). Of course, it would be foolish to assume that the focus of the episode would have been anyone other than Alicia, so these scenes (along with the glory that is Diane Lockhart, and the adorably off-his-face-on-pain-relief Finn Polmar) were actually a pleasant and welcome surprise.

    I’d have been incredibly surprised if a scene with Cary checking up on Kalinda had actually been shown. As much as I adore the show, I think this may be another of the things that we’re just supposed to assume has happened off-camera, because it has perhaps been deemed less important than other things. I only lean towards this line of thinking because let’s be honest, Cary and Kalinda are arguably two of the characters who get pushed to the sidelines the most (Kalinda especially).

    I wasn’t overly surprised, either. Unless Kalinda’s using someone or being used by someone (or both at the same time), the writers don’t feel like her actions are worth showing. I also think the point of the episode was really to show how individuals reacted to Will’s death, and not so much how it affected people’s relationships with one another.

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  5. "The Good Wife has never been totally clear about who it thinks Kalinda is—she’s been one of the show’s most problematic characters, especially in the last few seasons, because she’s been inconsistently drawn and oddly motivated. This is no exception, though I’m hopeful that Will’s death propels Kalinda to some greater sense of purpose. Kalinda pushes Alicia away to go on a quest of witnessing the most gruesome details of Will’s death—including both the interrogation of the killer, Jeffrey Grant, and Will’s corpse laid out on a slab. It suits her character, sort of—Kalinda would never be satisfied with an easy answer. But I’m not sure about The Good Wife positioning her as the show’s avenging angel of death or mercy or justice—that scene at the end with the belt was a touch too melodramatic for my taste. We know Kalinda is brutal and loyal to a fault, but I’m less and less sure of who she really is.”

    -The A.V. Club

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  6. The white washing of Kalinda is incredible

    (in response to this)

    So it is outside the bounds of common decency to forget or misinterpret what Kalinda told Alicia about her sexuality, but WITHIN the bounds of common decency to sleep with Alicia’s husband? No it is not. It’s irrelevent whether or not Kalinda was friends with the person who’s spouse she is sleeping with. According to the logic of the post, it would be not okay for me to sleep with my sister’s husband because she is my sister, but okay for me to do it if I didn’t know her. NO IT WOULD NOT.

    Secondly, holding Kalinda accountable for her own actions in no way, shape or form excuses Peter for his. Whereas Kalinda’s actions were negligent, Peter’s actions were actively vicious. I have absolutely no desire for Alicia to end up in a permanent relationship with Peter. He’s still 100% responsible for his own actions. Kalinda is 100% responsible for hers.

    The next thing Kalinda did that marks her as a bad friend is not telling Alicia about sleeping with Peter. The Good Wife is all about people having power to make their own choices, and Alicia specifically having that power. Alicia had the right to make the decision on whether or not to be friends with Kalinda given Kalinda’s past. Was Kalinda protecting Alicia when she failed to tell her about sleeping with Peter? Absolutely. Was she being a bad friend at the same time, by not allowing Alicia to make her own choices? Absolutely. These two things are not mutually exclusive.

    Then there is the issue of Kalinda’s husband. I think the writers intended it to come across as Kalinda being a better friend to Alicia, but unfortunately her husband was so awful her attempts came across as pathetic and sad. Kalinda could have warned far more people about her husband (all the while not telling people he was her husband - she was NOT required to do that) than she did, helping to protect Alicia. Kalinda really came across as not caring about anyone in this storyline, because her actions failed so spectacularly to match the threat.

    That said, it does not excuse Alicia’s actions. Again, I think the writers intended for Kalinda’s husband to come across as way less awful than he did, but that didn’t work out, which made Alicia’s actions look bad as well. When Alicia found out that the client was Kalinda’s husband, and the firm kept him anyway, she really should have gotten him removed. She could have said something along the lines that he’s a threat to someone, and not been required to say who because of confidentiality reasons. And, later, Alicia really could have shown more support of and interest in helping Kalinda stay away from her husband, instead of just suggesting she do so.

    Sleeping with someone’s husband, lying about it for years, and then putting someone in physical danger does not make a good friend, regardless of the actions of anyone else.

     
  7. Kalinda’s face is the best face.

     

  8. A little revisionist history for that Cary/Kalinda scene from Parallel Construction, Bitches.

     

  9. Anonymous asked: Part 6. Because the last episodes I think have shown that it's not just C. chasing some impossible dream of his, no one forced K. to take the first step and say sorry, I miss you (and that was much appreciated), asking him out for drinks, but once you decide to go that way, what good could come to you from always showing this kind of duplicitous face, basically undermining ...

    archiepanjabi:

    Part 7.undermining your own efforts, always leaving the other person disconcerted or always needing to struggle to read your motives and intentions through. Also, honestly, I don’t think this is very respectful of the other person. It’s always difficult to talk about this regarding fictional characters that really have no “motives” but are just what the writers make them, and have their path already set for them …

    Part 8. (maybe that’s why we get so angry, because we have no power), but I see that Kalinda has been given a chance, or rather that she herself is beginning to see it as a chance (of course this would make C. happy and I’d be happy to see him happy :-) but I don’t see it as a mutually exclusive thing), but then she takes steps in the opposite direction and that is what makes me angry at her.

    part 9. I don’t know what else to say because, like you say, it’s not like we have to convince each other of anything. I fear this further clarification is actually more confusing than the previous one. I get angry when someone “touches” my favorite character and/or my favorite ship too (and Cary&Kalinda do have their share of “enemies”, too strong a word but I use it for brevity, to convey the idea), so I can perfectly understand the reaction,

    part 10. but as long as there’s mutual respect (and, allow me to say, but it’s not directed specifically at you, a certain dose of humor, since we are after all talking about a tv show), strong disagreement is never a menace. Thank you, goodbye! (the end) (sorry I had to wait 1 hour to post again as anon)

    I’m continuing to tag this (hope you don’t mind anon, just let me know if you want me to remove the tags!) because this conversation started fairly publicly and I felt it should continue that way. Also, it’s been really interesting. Like the opposite of shipping wars. It’s actually restored a bit of my faith in the fandom. Bless. 

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    Yes, this. I love Cary/Kalinda together but I don’t like the way it is being written. I want Kalinda to grow and change, because she’s been stuck in an endless, repetative loop that the writers refuse to break her out of, but I don’t want certain aspects of her character to be fundamentally altered. Everything about the way she has been written over the past few seasons has been bad, especially the focus on her sex life. I get the feeling that this is something nearly everyone agrees on.

     

  10. A victim falling for an abuser is a disturbing, horrible relationship

    The point of Lana bringing an investigation into Kalinda was to hurt and punish Kalinda for refusing Lana’s advances. The fact that Kalinda then developed affection for Lana is a sign of serious emotional disturbance. Lana did display concern for Kalinda once Kalinda confronted her about the abuse being even more abusive than Lana intended, but that does not change the fact that Lana purposely set out to hurt Kalinda. Abusers can and do care for those they abuse, and victims can love and adore their abusers. These are aspects of abuse that make the cycle incredibly difficult to break.